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Walked by on my lunch break today, still some minor work being done. Banner on fence says the park opens March 26.

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I do not recall what year S&W sold the Dallas system. It was 1917 when S&W sold the Dallas lines to GE. They then consolidated the companies that had been under the control of S&W's Dallas Electric Corporation; the Dallas Consolidated & Electric Street Railway Co. (itself the result...

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Except that by far the main loss of power has been from natural gas plants, partially from more gas being used for home heating than usual, but also because wells are getting blocked by ice. Can't deny that some turbines have frozen, but wind is still producing about as expected for these conditions...

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A bit hard to tell from a distance, but it looks like bike lanes have been striped on the Commerce St. viaduct.

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And by the way, the Federal government broke up Stone and Webster, which owned all the interurbans in North Texas, owning both the electric utilities and their power plants and the interurbans was too much of a monopoly. They had to part with one or the other, so they parted with the interurbans an...

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I know they separated out the stations into separate construction packages to be bid on separately - north Red, north Blue, south Red, south Blue, and shared. I agree that they should've prioritized Mockingbird, since it and Cityplace are the only two from the shared group that when combined with th...

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https://www.dart.org/about/inmotion/winter21/2.asp

Current projected opening dates for projects under construction:
-Hidden Ridge Station - first half of this year
-Platform Extensions - late fall of this year
-Silver Line - March 2023

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1 - Westmoreland (Red) 2 - 8th & Corinth (Red) 3 - Cedars (Red) 4 - Walnut Hill (Red) 5 - LBJ/Central (Red) 6 - Parker Road (Red) 7 - UNT (Blue) 8 - Ledbetter (Blue) 9 - 8th & Corinth (Blue) 10 - Cedars (Blue) 11 - LBJ/Skillman (Blue) 12 - Dwntn Garland (Blue) 13 - Rowlett (Blue) 14 - Buckn...

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DART could tie the Texas Central HSR station to Union Station with its sole remaining RDC using the freight tracks, or just extend all the TRE trains there. They all idle for some time at Union Station anyways, they could just idle for less time a mile further south. If they did, there would be an ...

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An overpass has the advantage that the land underneath is by default usable (if gloomy), unlike a trench where the deck has to be added. I think a reduced overpass that is just the through lanes with no exits is viable, maybe stacked double-decker style to minimize footprint.

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My guess is that the third truck of the northbound train (between the second and third segments) somehow caught on the switch just south of the station, thus trying to take the crossover while the rest of the train stayed on the main track. It then was pulled off the track by the rest of the moving ...

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1 - Westmoreland (Red) 2 - 8th & Corinth (Red) 3 - Cedars (Red) 4 - Walnut Hill (Red) 5 - LBJ/Central (Red) 6 - Parker Road (Red) 7 - UNT (Blue) 8 - Ledbetter (Blue) 9 - 8th & Corinth (Blue) 10 - Cedars (Blue) 11 - Dwntn Garland (Blue) 12 - Rowlett (Blue) 13 - Buckner (Green) 14 - Lawnview ...

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That's odd, link works just fine for me. From my experience, post-construction at Park Lane, southbound trains stop at the first two humps (instead of going to the furthest hump as seems to be normal at most stations), but they must not have moved a train detection circuit from the far end of the pl...

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https://www.dart.org/about/board/boardagendas/planningitem7_08dec20.pdf Some interesting bits: -Instead of just extending the platforms and adding/moving humps, 5 stations (Mockingbird, 8th & Corinth, Westmoreland, LBJ/Skillman, Downtown Garland) will have full platform raises (as did Ledbetter...

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https://www.dart.org/about/board/boardagendas/planningitem7_08dec20.pdf Interesting info on page 31: Approval from FTA received on November 12, 2020 for locating the EMF at DCTA – “The Federal Transit Administration (FTA) has reviewed the supplemental environmental documentation DART submitted for ...

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Skillman/Miller?? That is spicy. Would love to see the photo. Was that a planned name for LBJ/Skillman? Here's one. I don't think I've been able to track down any sources old enough to show it as the old name during planning; not much online from that time. While trying to track down where I rememb...

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Here's my list of signs I've seen over the last few years. One thing malfunctioning signs are good for are showing rarely used signs. Also, trains coming into DFW run through just about the entire roll in the process of changing from DFW to Not in Service (this list isn't in that order). 1 - Westmor...

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I saw it today too. What it is is that they have replicated an issue with the old signs in that they never made an Orange LBJ/Central sign, only a Red one. As I remember it, when they were planning the Green and Orange lines, the idea was that the Orange line would run with the Green line south of D...

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The fact that it does display what the line is instead of just the destination makes me think that the LEDs are in fact monochrome. Looking at them up close yesterday, I couldn't discern any individual red/green/blue LEDs making up a larger pixel. Time will tell, I guess.

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Something new today: the train I was on this evening had LED destination signs in place of the old-fashioned scrolling ones. I'd seen references in DART budgets in the last year or two to starting on replacing the signs, but didn't know if it'd been deferred due to COVID. It was an Orange line train...

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Mentioned this in another thread, but will bump it here since it's kinda dead. https://twitter.com/humantransit/status/1327344320400171008 From Jarrett Walker on Twitter: Dallas bus network redesign: The Board has given direction on how the balance the competing goals of ridership and coverage, and...

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More recent updates: rest of the internal sidewalks have been poured over the last few weeks, then more recently they've put in more trees and smaller greenery. North and west awnings have received paint jobs, and it looks like some bricklaying has begun under the north one as well.

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There was some discussion in the DART thread about it - the construction costs came in higher than estimated, and Irving needed some extra time to get the cash together. The estimate for this station is totally ridiculous when you consider that the foundations and footings for the station were buil...

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Some recent progress shots. Trees added, eastern awning structure up, today they poured a large section of internal sidewalk. Also, found a piece on the water feature, currently visible under construction. https://dallasinnovates.com/ddi-foundations-300k-donation-set-for-west-end-square-water-featur...

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West awning main structure seems done. Paths have become more defined in the main area after differently colored dirt was brought in for green areas. Looked like they were putting in irrigation pipes yesterday and today.

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Most of the main frame for the northern part of the awning is up, concrete perimeter seems largely poured, beginning to see interior pathways carved into the dirt.

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Making some real progress recently.

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Ah, so that's where I got it from. Thanks for finding those to begin with.

Looking around your flickr account and dear god that Mill Creek Parkway proposal. Let's be glad that not everything leaves the drawing board.

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No, Only for Cityplace. I tried overlaying the diagram on an overhead view of the Knox/Henderson area, but the locations of the vents and exits don't line up. On one of the DART board's presentations about the 2045 plan a few months ago, there was mention of possibly building out Knox/Henderson stat...

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Gotcha - so the station cutout was dug out to accommodate longer trains, but the extra portion was walled off? Yes. If you look outside the windows on the left side of a train when arriving (southbound) or departing (northbound), you can see the area. Until last month or so, there was no finishing ...

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As a reminder where DART has pocket tracks, there are just a few on the system. Green south at Lawnview, Green and Orange north at Bachman, Blue line north at LBJ/Skillman, Red line north at LBJ/Central, Red and Blue south just before spur to maintenance shops. There is also one just north of Victo...

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It closed around the beginning of the year I think. I wonder if it wasn't turning enough business or it was an issue of shrinkage.

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Parking lot's been torn up, trees taken down. Recent wet weather aside, this is about to get pretty active.

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Hidden Ridge Station is finally rolling. Apparently the city of Irving had agreed to fund it. That must have been the reason for the delay. https://communityimpact.com/dallas-fort-worth/coppell-valley-ranch-las-colinas/transportation/2020/01/29/irving039s-116m-hidden-ridge-transit-station-to-open-i...

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https://www.dart.org/about/board/boardagendas/wholeitem7_28jan20.pdf Seems to me that DART is only doing this now since the FTA is getting on their case about it. Most other major light rail systems seem to have already implemented these years ago. Deadline for completion is July 31, and given the ...

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It does. It was made the terminus of D-Link when it switched to electric buses, and now is the terminus of route 749, which now uses the ex-D-Link buses. The requisite investment in a bus charging station is also probably part of why they want to find ways to continue using the electrics.

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DART wanted to put the maintenance facility in Carrollton, at the northeast corner of Belt Line and Luna, but Carrollton wouldn't give them the ok (a new warehouse has since been built on the spot). So then the options would be to use TEXRail's facility, or the TRE one. The TEXRail site would probab...

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Noticed that the parking lot on the site for this one was closed with the entrances taped off today. Maybe something is happening. Or they were just repainting the lines. Time will tell.

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Interesting tidbit from the latest DART board presentation on D2. The plan for light rail lines downtown from 1988 had the Red and Blue lines running as a subway underneath State St in Uptown, Pearl St, and Pacific Ave before returning to the surface west of Houston St. Stations were between Routh a...

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I feel like this building could use a good nickname, since calling it "The AMLI Fountain Place" is a bit awkward. I propose calling it "The Chisel."

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Anyone else starting to get a bit concerned about the lack of visible progress recently? I've seen workers poking about here and there, and the crane moves sometimes, but I haven't seen progress on the crown for weeks. For example, in the middle part along the top there's still a gap in the frame wh...

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Can confirm they've been painting the bike lanes onto Greenville yesterday and today, as well as working on the crosswalk. The lanes themselves have been coned off for at least a week in preparation. The city also has a page on their website about this.

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Speaking of FOX4, that incident where that crazy guy drove a truck into their building happened almost a year ago, but the glass walls that were damaged are still boarded up with plywood. You'd think they would've taken care of it by now.

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I wasn't suggesting that the north-south route be used as D2, just that it would be a good placement for such a line at some point. The fact that there's such a debate about the necessity of a second line through downtown implies that any additional lines are completely out of the question until/unl...

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Would the Orange line run down through Union and Convention Center before heading north to Cityplace? The junction east of Pearl is already busy enough, without needing however many new switches and crossings to be added. My feelings are that if a north-south line happens through downtown, it'd be b...

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The TRE seems to be having a lot of train cancellations due to "mechanical issues" recently. That is to say, they're running short on operable locomotives. While driving by their yard last week, I noticed one of the two F59PHIs (the streamlined engines) sitting off on the siding with the l...

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Looking Good! The only error I can find is that on the future transit map, you didn't put the 1700 Pacific station in the right spot (...at 1700 Pacific). To be honest, I've been meaning to eventually get around to making a thread like this, although my maps are usually reconstructions of past syste...

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https://www.dart.org/ShareRoot/about/expansion/cottonbelt/DARTCottonBeltMeeting22jul19.pdf

Looks like they've scaled down the station designs to something more reasonable than the ones described in the EIS.

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1) Is the Orange Line Phase 2 to DFW North station still a thing or did it get permanently cancelled. I know they built the stub out for it, but wasnt' sure if it was still in the plans. Buried in the FEIS for the Silver Line they mentioned that it's cancelled. I went into further detail with a lin...

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Definitely appears that they've stopped building concrete floors, most to all of the falsework is gone. Next up, the steel structure framing to build the top of the building.

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