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^ I'd also be fine with burying the freeway in a way to allow for construction above.

Fwiw, I don't believe the assumed or perceived negative regional effects are objective fact. I've seen enough studies suggesting there were little to no negative regional effects on freeway removal.

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I honestly can only think of one convention center in the United States with "good" things directly adjacent to it (Nashville). Otherwise the convention centers at best tend to be a few blocks removed from activity (Boston and San Diego). I'd still vote for this again because I think roll...

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Based on everything else happening in that part of town, I suspect this is going to be a sea of parking lots for a longggggg time.

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It's fantastic driving...and walking, living, etc...around cities where highways have been removed. The "we can't live without our highways" people should visit some of these places.

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Central or Central Expressway...and sometimes just '75'...is all I hear or say. What else would people call it?

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^^ Between the trick-or-treaters and traffic, that intersection was a shit show last night.

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No doubt Berkley Market is counting on foot traffic from Katy Trail. I walk the trail most days and have long wished for a place where I can easily pop in and grab something (Knox Starbucks is always a mess, long lines and I can't go in with my dogs). And I will say that Foxtrot has been packed eve...

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^ My guess is its location. I imagine other condo buildings of comparable quality would do well in this area.

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According to some of the people who work there, Grange Hall cancelled their plans to move because the new location would have been too small. Not sure why they didn't realize that from the get-go though.

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What an exciting time for this area! I can't wait to see all this rise!

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Huh, so the lot I was referring to is immediately south of where The Carlisle on the Creek is going. It's a huge lot at Bowen and Carlisle they've cleared...so much room for activities!

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It's at the NW corner of Bowen and Carlisle, I believe, right along the Katy Trail. It's a big lot that's already been cleared.

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I wonder if the church being there is why they're using such tall cranes?

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In the rendering the tower has the same material as the base, but who knows. This wouldn't be the first bait and switch we've seen.

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Not the greatest pic but here's a shot of the tower cranes/progress on the two-tower residential project near where Ross, Henderson, and Greenville Ave all converge.

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^^ hahaha that's what I thought too.

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Someone else mentioned that the planned development (replacing those old apartments) was going to be similar in style and scale to the Robert Elliot-built condos immediately to the south.

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LongonBigD wrote:Is it just me or does the night view rendering look nothing like the day rendering except the basic shape of the building? Maybe this is all conceptual at this point.

The earlier renderings must be based an earlier iteration of the building's design. I personally like the progress.

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I agree with vman. I think these towers are better than almost everything Harwood has thrown up.

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The shape of the GS buildings cuts into portions of what was originally park space so even that's not as good as the original renders/plans! lol

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So what is that now, 8 new towers going up in the neighborhood?? Wow!

(3 as part of the new Travis St. project, across from Weirs Plaza, 3 from this newly proposed development, and 2 more further north, near McKinney and Monticello. Am I missing any?)

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They're keeping the Mashburn building's facade but everything else goes.

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With 1M square feet of space spread across three 9-15 story buildings, plus the park, there won't be much room for all the 80 story towers! hahaha For what it's worth, I really like the density and the jobs. I just think they need to stop showing the rendering featuring all the towers. That's not wh...

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That video does a great job of showing why Downtown's height limits are what they are! hahaha

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Oooh, I like that! Great find, dallaz!

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This stretch is getting taller fast! I'm guessing the vacant lot across Fitzhugh from the Terminal building is going to be some sort of high-ish rise before too long as well.

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You're correct; the white is brick. The grey portions though are stucco, which IMO makes those parts of the tower look cheap.

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It's a pretty nice building but I wish they would have used more of the dark brick from the building's base in place of the stucco on the tower's upper portion.

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This is a great spot for a tower; hopefully the new building is of the caliber of The McKenzie. Also, hopefully once this one goes up, the lot on which Extra Space Storage sits is the next to go.

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The Oak Lawn / Lemmon tower is near the top of my list of towers I really want to happen. That lot is so ugly. same here....any updates? havent heard anything about it in a while I thought the locals objected to the appearance of the building's rear and so they were going to make design tweaks. Thi...

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There were a lot more workers/vehicles on the site this morning as well as more drilling holes in the ground.

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Yep, I watch this one's progress every morning and I absolutely love everything about it. Hopefully somebody's planning to build something comparable on the other side of Fitzhugh!

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Open Realty development update (maybe): workers were out drilling holes in the ground on the future development site this morning. I wonder if this is getting into gear, gathering soil samples or something, or if this was some unrelated work. Hmmmmm

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Funny, I'd forgotten all about this one!

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I didn't realize it had been approved. For some reason I thought they were doing additional redesigns to satisfy the neighbors who didn't like the appearance of the building's rear.

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This looks cool and all but my confidence level is low. Hopefully I'm wrong!

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^^ I believe that was the intent of the building's midcentury elements (mostly seen towards the building's lower portion), to reference the period style of the Statler. Granted, these midcentury elements were more noticeable when the building was shorter.

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I love that! I think the extra height and added structure is well worth the delay!

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I love so much of what SOM produces and these towers are no different. Beautiful. I wish the project was oriented more along Cedar Springs though. I find it odd that these towers as well as 23 Springs are positioned away from the street the way they are. How would this project face the street more?...

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I love so much of what SOM produces and these towers are no different. Beautiful. I wish the project was oriented more along Cedar Springs though. I find it odd that these towers as well as 23 Springs are positioned away from the street the way they are.

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^ I suspect it's only a matter of time before the development comes, here and near Harwood park.

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vandelay has a knack for building a very good bar....food is typically ok albeit over priced and almost everything some kind of knockoff from Hillstone, but excited nonetheless for more options. Berkley's roll out has been entirely too slow, Foxtrot has beat them to market, it will be interesting t...

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Interesting. In that case, one really would have to assume this is going to become a tower.

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I wonder if this is within the portion of the West End that has height limits.

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No. Not a chance.

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undefinedprocess wrote:Anyone know what the tower(s) with a dome-like crown (half of a sphere, really) right by Trammell Crow Center is/are (in that drawing)?

Lincoln Complex.

That was one of my favorite unbuilt projects in Dallas from the 80s. I was REALLY hoping this one happened.

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I'll be the one who said they liked it even though it did have a parking lot in front of it. hahaha

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I agree. It's better to wait until there's a project that isn't such a major waste of such a good spot.

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It's a great looking project in what is becoming a more desirable part of downtown, but yeah, who's going to be leasing this project?

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Damn, this neighborhood is going vertical FAST!

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