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No notable changes to the site as of last Friday. I didn't walk by it today. I suspect the banks would be hard pressed to lend money for this development or any other Downtown Dallas office developments unless they have signed commitments from companies willing to lease space upon completion. I als...

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Inch deep and a mile wide.....Dallas commitment to most of the remaining cool older gems that are left. Look at the Belmont, once so 'not Dallas awesome' and now left to rot. I just wish someone could have picked up this little jewel and kept it a boutique hotel focusing on the Market Center neighb...

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lol we Dallas folk are so jaded by dead-end proposals, that we always expect the worst...rightly so. So true. I'm always one who will take the path to be happily surprised by new announcements that have a real shot at being built as opposed to those pie in the sky proposals. I do hope the East side...

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The spot for the proposed Four Seasons Hotel & Residences has been empty for years ever since Gulf Insurance closed their offices and their building was raised. It must be 20+ years since anything occupied that plot of land. It looks like it will be a while longer for the Four Seasons to be bui...

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The spot for the proposed Four Seasons Hotel & Residences has been empty for years ever since Gulf Insurance closed their offices and their building was raised. It must be 20+ years since anything occupied that plot of land. It looks like it will be a while longer for the Four Seasons to be buil...

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Dallas_Uptown wrote:
R1070 wrote:I'd love to see a traffic light at Lemmon and Throckmorton. Maybe this project could bring that.
Agreed. Trying to cross Lemmon any time of day is a nightmare.

If the city timed the lights properly, there wouldn't be a problem. It's all in the flow of traffic.

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‘Hostile takeover’: West Dallas homeowners battle new developments, rising taxes Gentrification has made Gilbert-Emory one of the hottest real estate plays in the city, but at what cost to longtime residents? https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2023/05/01/hostile-takeover-west-dallas-homeowners-battle-...

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R1070 wrote:That CS corridor will look pretty sharp if these get built!

Since there are already towers coming out of the ground in the general vicinity, I'd say they'll be hard pressed to get financing for this kind of development in the current banking environment. They are great looking towers.

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So Hillwood Urban is involved with the entire site or just the Goldman-Sachs building? The article was poorly written and confusing. Frankly, Hillwood can't even build anything on their own site down the street. I don't think this bodes well for the entire development now. We'll be lucky to get a 10...

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This new tower is encouraging if it breaks ground before years end. Maybe the elusive MIA Isosceles Tower will finally get a green light.

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What's sad is that this could be a dynamic development on the skyline, but this will be a mediocre in-fill.

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And apparently now topping out at 12 stories ! Hunt.GoldmanSachs.Towers.Development.jpg Much ado about nothing. This has been a huge disappointment since the original plan with renderings was announced. Dallas just can't get its act together. They'd have had this development half finished in Austin...

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R1070 wrote:And GS reduced size... not shocked. It will be a bank with a drive-thru by the time this gets off the ground. lol

I'd love it if they had a Taco Bell adjacent. LOL.

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tamtagon wrote:How tall can the buildings along lemmon be?

Good question. It's a lot closer to Love Field and its landing patterns.

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Is there any reason that we should give up on this? I never expected this to be a quick in and out project. Anytime you do mixed use and high profile high end it takes much longer to see any dirt move. Plan 3 times build once. I still think this is a go just not tomorrow. Maybe the next growth cycl...

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Saks had two stores in Dallas and they failed. Bloomingdales had a store in Dallas and it failed. If both had been at NorthPark, I'd bet they'd still be open. Saks shouldn't have moved into the old Marshall Field's store at The Galleria. They should have stayed put in their original location. Their ...

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Well, this can't be good... It's been almost ten months since the last Steve Brown article about this project... Yep, radio silence usually says there's problems. Financing is probably at the top of the list. This plot of land has been doomed for decades. It wouldn't surprise me to hear that it's b...

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This one is dead in the water. All of the corporate blather is just meaningless hot air.

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Red Bird thrives as Valley View has become a wasteland. This is on the city of Dallas' planners. What a disgrace.

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A little pause is good. The money will collect around the best sites soon enough. Municipal and university construction projects on tap are huge, so the workers will still be around. Portman_Dallas+Gateway.south.view.jpg UT Southwestern alone has two huge projects on tap and UT has the money on its...

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Tucy wrote:Still can't find any building permit applications for this.

Like everything else, if it's not broken ground, this won't be happening anytime soon. Money is frozen.

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Tucy wrote:Update: still no permits issued for Isosceles.

If they haven't secured financing by now, it probably won't be happening anytime soon. The lending banks have dried up.

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This development is typical Dallas. Uninspired, 25 story, glass boxes Totally agree. I can't for the life of me see any compelling reason to even build this development. There is no office demand or Perot's tower would be half built already. Are they trying to latch onto the Goldman Sachs' developm...

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If you look at those 2 new renderings, they're actually totally separate designs. It's not the same tower in both photos. Field.Street.Dst.2023a.jpg Field.Street.Dst.2023b.jpg Indeed, the renderings of both towers are different from each other. The second rendering looks like it may be a first phas...

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I'm not proposing that any private party be compelled to do something of course, but you'd think that the city could create clever incentives that push development in the right direction and disincentive this type of thing in key parts of the city. Again some semblance of a land tax would probably ...

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I really think that HEB had intended to build on the McKinney @ Lemmon site, but the KDC people got too cute and they let their window of opportunity pass them by. Now they can't build anything to the scale they wanted due to the financing overhead. I could see HEB scale it back even more and put a ...

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I'll take anything at this point. lol Right :lol: That parking lot is ugly as hell. Any development there is an upgrade Field.Street.Dst.2023a.jpg I think the newer renderings have been downscaled to accommodate the current marketplace, but if they get a commitment, perhaps they'll upgrade their pl...

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I went to KaiZen's web site and noticed a new rendering for their Field Street District development. Have they decided on this one now?

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I think this project is DOA now. HEB owns the land, so they're known to just sit on real estate for years. I suspect this one is now in their deep freezer. They waited way too long and the interest rates have put an end to it.

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Any whispers about the Isosceles tower? I thought it was supposed to get active before the end of Q1 2023. Just curious. Building permits still haven't been issued. (Applied for, which is a good sign, but not yet issued.) I just read an article about the horror Sprouts went through to get a buildin...

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Any whispers about the Isosceles tower? I thought it was supposed to get active before the end of Q1 2023. Just curious.

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Can anyone find any FAA, TDLR, or city building permit filings? Well, I don't have any information on that, but you can drive by the site and see for yourself that something is going on there. These were nice sized pieces of equipment. What has that equipment been up to? I haven't been by that site...

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It will be interesting to see if it actually gets out of the ground. There are a number of condo towers with unsold inventory on the market. Is the market glutted already?

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I think Field Street is more likely than Newpark, but they didn't explain the "educational" aspect of this development in depth whatsoever. All of it was very vague.

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This doesn't surprise me at all. They couldn't get their act together to move forward before the market turned. I think that development of new office towers will lag in getting out of the ground unless they have commitments to fill those towers. Spec office towers don't hold much promise in major U...

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I agree, very bland, but it’s better than nothing. Actually, I'd go with nothing and just leave the plot of land open. When a company can't build a more less inspiring set of buildings, then just don't build it. This is beyond bland. It's plain ugly. I can't believe that Hilton would want to put th...

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dual.Hilton-Above (1).jpg What a hideous development. This is straight off the exit ramp on Stemmons Frwy. on steroids. Ugly and unappealing. The best thing about it is that it is squatty and will be lost in the surrounding buildings in the neighborhood and hard to see from afar. Why can't we get a...

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CTroyMathis wrote:It's technically within Oak Lawn.

That area isn't even close to Oak Lawn. This group needs to go ASAP. They shouldn't have that kind of influence over so much of Dallas.

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The office tower looks to be about 18 stories by my counting, unless I missed a couple of floors. The residential tower counted out at 20 stories.

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Dallas slaps Valley View Center owners with habitual criminal property designation https://www.dallasnews.com/news/commentary/2023/02/24/dallas-slaps-valley-view-center-owners-with-habitual-criminal-property-designation/ The situation at this location is a horror show. The blight is everywhere and ...

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I always thought this project was a pipe dream.

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I felt that the proposed hotel was floundering since absolutely nothing was happening to the site except more broken windows. The building has become an eyesore along the Tollway. The building itself will need a lot of rehab.

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R1070 wrote:Odd that they'd switch owners during construction!

Urby didn't sell the towers, the plot of land next to the Virgin Hotel across the street from the Urby towers was sold. As of now, it's a surface parking lot for the Virgin Hotel. Urby owns the towers.

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H-E-B owns a lot of land in Dallas that they've just sat on for a number of years. They have so much money that it's surprising that they have never decided to crack the D/FW market. With Kroger & Albertson's merger, there will have to be a number of stores sold off due to SEC regulations. It wi...

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What a massive failure by the City of Dallas to allow this horror to continue to plague one of the most prominent sites in the city. It's a disgrace to see that virtually nothing good has happened here for years. It's an open wound that has festered to just ugliness. No excuses are acceptable.

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I recently saw a movie where the guy (who was from west Texas) said, "Dallas ain't Texas." That's always been true, but now Austin, Houston, & San Antonio are all in the same box with Dallas. Hell, you can throw Ft. Worth in there too. All of Texas' urban cities have forsaken the Texa...

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Does anyone know how many levels of underground parking are going to be built under this tower? Word has they are attempting to reach China. LOL.

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They should just build an H-E-B Super Store on this spot and be done with it. It'd do massive business in the middle of the city 24/7/365.

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The depth of the hole for this tower probably corresponds to the number of underground parking levels this development requires. Since the tower is 31-stories tall, I'd imagine they'll need a lot of parking for residences and guests.

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LongonBigD wrote:I read in some piece 8,000 sq ft retail. It stuck out to me because they sounded like they were bragging about that amount.

I'd bet that the lower level would wind up being a restaurant since it is right across from Klyde Warren Park.

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