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They'll never sell 10-11K seats. Keep it small and intimate - a mostly filled 7K arena is much more intimidating and fun than 50% 11K arena.

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I’m surprised they are only going with 23 floors considering how the land in VP is disappearing. Developer Hines files permits to start new Victory Park apartment tower Houston-based developer Hines has filed building permits to construct the next tower in Victory Park northwest of downtown Dallas....

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eddieg1 where are those renderings from?

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I wonder if the FIFA World Cup announcement on Sunday has any bearing on the new "terminal"?

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Also, it may not be the sexiest of designs but it's likely to be the most functional for what is needed at this time. Recall that DFW is a major domestic and international hub. They need more gates to improve transit and if this get done faster via this current design then so be it. No terminal par...

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My guess this will be built to free up some gates at terminals A & D for widebodies to use and send the domestic terminal D stuff to this terminal or other gates. Agree with this thought. Also, it may not be the sexiest of designs but it's likely to be the most functional for what is needed at ...

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Work on DFW Airport’s sixth terminal could start as early as February The airport’s governing board is set to approve a $914 million contract for Terminal F Thursday. Good to see this activity moving quickly. DFW Airport is a really well run org. https://www.dallasnews.com/business/airlines/2024/01...

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The nice thing about the AAC is the connection to DART/Tex Rail. If a new area goes into the design district I hope some sort of pedestrian walkway is built that is somewhat protected from the elements. Unfortunately I see that either this wont happen or it will overrun this homeless if it does. As...

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I don't see why a new arena is required. What's wrong with AAC? Granted I haven't been there for a few years so maybe it's deteriorated considerably over that time...

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The Perots should stick to developing cargo airports and warehouses. They don't have a clue on how to market and/or build Class A projects!

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Yeah, agree it's difficult to call it a terminal w/o any ticketing/security/drop-off/pick-up. Wonder if the design changes should SWA decide to fly out of DFW??

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Thanks for starting this OP!

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Just curious if it was ever stated how tall this new 30 ST will be?

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I think the stadium's location in Arlington sucks. You can barely even see it from the freeway, which is oddly below grade there. To that extent, who even cares what the outside looks like, I guess unless you are are a regular Randoll Mills street driver. I really believe if Jerry Jones could have ...

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As a Chiefs fan I feel At&T is similar in that the stadium is nice, but it's in a sea of parking lots. At least At&T has some stuff near it though. I agree the location of the stadium leaves much to be desired. So wish that Dallas had better leadership at that time. Can you imagine the impa...

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I can't imagine a new stadium at Fair Park being an improvement either. The Stadium in Arlington is a much better place inside to watch a game, but the exterior? Neighborhood integration? Nah. It's terrible. When you look at the "new" stadiums built around the country in the last couple o...

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Looks good. Hopefully, it will be developed and pan out.

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This is a good project. Should really help connect UTD students to other parts of Dallas w/o needing a car.

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I have little hope if Perot is involved in this.

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Was the NorthEnd apartments subsidized somehow? Most cities write their economic incentives to be based on tangible results, but I'm not sure about the city of Dallas....if they didn't and this continues to be downscaled, ultimately it could be a money-loser for city of Dallas, since they did subsi...

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Just curious as to why 3 buildings at 13,10, and 8 stores need to be built as opposed to one building with 31 stories? Why not add a hotel and make it 45? I mean if you are all in on a mixed use development why not start by making the first tower mixed use? Instead they go full Plano. This project'...

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Hillwood has been hold for decades

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These two photos of Downtown & Uptown Dallas from 2001 and 2021 show incredible growth of the immediate Downtown and adjacent areas the past 20 years. If the development of Hunt's Field Street area that includes two 50 story towers, Harwood's #12 45 story tower, and the towers on Downtown's Eas...

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Yeah, the rendering doesn't make any sense. There seems to be parking on the secure side of airport.

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Given the remote worker mentality/culture, companies are only going to build the minimum amount of space they need. A lot of companies are renewing leases with smaller footprints. I know my company is doing that and even with the reduced footprint, the office is still pretty empty.

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Aren't they suppose to build a deck park over DNT to connect the two sides??

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Looks like a very nice addition. Any idea on the overall height?

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I'm happy as long as Dallas continues to become more dense and vibrant with neglected gaps filling in. We have a lot of available land to build on in the core of the city. Something Austin doesn't have. Agreed. Tall skyscrapers look great from a distance but if there isn't sufficient density betwee...

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Means nothing...unfortunately.

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I45Tex, I'm not saying this is a "crown jewel" design but I certainly am NOT opposed to it being built as is. Could there be improvements to it? Sure, specially as it relates to the parking structure but the building itself doesn't seem uninspired to me and I don't feel like the design was...

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This one and the Central Market site are so frustrating! I think this is exactly what has happened to both of these developments. They waited too long to start the process and secure funding, so the window has closed on either of their starting anytime soon. You can make your reservations at Truluc...

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don't understand the hate for this design.

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https://res.cloudinary.com/marketsphere/image/upload/dqcgljbr9khytnulvmei.pdf I’m assuming this is the updated version. Idk if I like it better than the original renderings. Both renderings are a waste of time for such a high profile site. Sad One thing I can say, it’s not as bad as Goldman so far ...

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Seems pretty diverse to me

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Whatever they build will bring more people (both new residents and commuters) which is very positive for the area. We've already seen it in the suburbs (numerous times - Las Colinas, Westlake, Legacy West, The Star, ....), where a little development leads to more development, leads to more developme...

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Any update on this project, especially the GS portion of it?

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Has the project broken ground?

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Hillwood is a joke. They should stick to building warehouses.

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Why on Earth would the city want or allow a "suburban campus" in the heart of the city! They are trying to promote urbanity/walkability... I'm not really sure what to make of this. Given the size of this campus and the location, I find it hard to believe they'll be able to create somethin...

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Y'all realize GS' tower/building would only be 15-20 stories, right? The 80+ story tower that's been teased for a year now is the hotel/resi mixed-use tower that's a completely separate portion of the project. At the City Council meeting, the words "15-20 stories" were said (speaking abou...

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Btw, here is the content of the DMN article regarding the approval of the tax incentives: https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2022/06/22/goldman-sachs-would-bring-5000-jobs-to-new-dallas-office/ New York-based financial giant Goldman Sachs will put 5,000 workers in an office campus to be...

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Hahaha! Let's go! The council prevailed, thankfully. I also can't wait to vote against the jacka** when the time comes. Now all that's left is to see how the timeline for this project shapes up, and if they will downscale the project. I really hope they don't. What are the chances that this will re...

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Fyi, I was talking with an executive from Goldman this past Saturday (at a social gathering) and he confirmed that Goldman will be consolidating their DFW workforce in a new building next to Perot Museum as well as adding thousands of additional jobs. He didn't believe Goldman would move their HQ t...

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Addison wrote:A completion date no later than December 31, 2027 means we might still have a long wait yet for this to get going.

Is the "December 31, 2027" completion date for the entire project or just the portion GS would occupy?

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Some unexpected drama happening live. Paul Ridley motioned to DENY the tax incentives. His reasons for the denial reflect a comprehensive ignorance of fundamental economics. Of course it would be great if we didn't need to approve these sorts of things for public corporations. The reality is that i...

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It will be irresponsible of them if they don't vote YES on this. Remember, Dallas is also a host site for the 2026 World Cup so they want/need as much big-brand corporate density as they can get in the downtown area.

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I really hope the Northend redevelopment pushes forward... I want GS to land in one of the office towers as does everyone else, but I really want the 83-story hotel/condo tower to happen, and not just for the height. Based on the image I posted above, that would bring 595 residential units to the c...

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Well, Steve Brown keeps mentioning the 80+ story tower . . . but . . . Yes, with Goldman Sachs on board and the city throwing in a heavy subsidy, it seems clear 'this development" is very likely to move forward. But that doesn't necessarily mean it will look much like the initial renderings. (...

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Fyi, I was talking with an executive from Goldman this past Saturday (at a social gathering) and he confirmed that Goldman will be consolidating their DFW workforce in a new building next to Perot Museum as well as adding thousands of additional jobs. He didn't believe Goldman would move their HQ to...

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DMN article by Steve Brown https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2022/06/10/goldman-sachs-office-tower-near-downtown-dallas-will-be-the-largest-in-a-generation/ Looks like the 6/22 council meeting will have a tremendous domino effect on other proposed development projects. Should be intere...

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