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LongonBigD wrote:This block is totally ready for post-COVID.

Agreed. Exciting to see a lot of this nearing completion just in time for a post-COVID summer.

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It's a shame there wasn't more vision in this area initially. You have Legacy West, Shops at Legacy, and Granite Park all reasonably close to each other, but all feel so isolated and separate. I get that they are not all the same developer, but it is still wild to me how hard it is to walk from The ...

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With the impending opening of Blum, Sporting Club & Citizen, plus Vice Park and Bottled Blonde, on Good Lattimer it should be interesting to see what the character of the core of Deep Ellum looks like ~18 months from now. I'm wondering this too. I hope it doesn't follow the 'boom/bust' cycle th...

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I checked out this square this past Saturday and loved it! I'd say "Square" is definitely the right term for this, as it doesn't feel like a park at all, but that's certainly fine. I saw a group of police officers on bikes hanging out at the park, the ping-pong/fusball tables were all occu...

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This might be old news, but Level (the bar across from Kung Fu) had a fence around it. I haven't walked down this street in months, so perhaps this fence has been then for a while now.

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Great news! I haven't heard of this place, but nice to see they are considering downtown. I wonder if they mean the CBD, or the greater Downtown area?

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Looks great! I love the current Community Brewery space, and this one sounds even better, can't wait to see what this one is like!

Does Mark Cuban own the current space? I know it's next to the Mav's training facility.

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From a city government perspective, residential uses generally have a much lower revenue to expense ratio. Single family residential (which isn't proposed here) generally doesn't generate enough tax revenue to even cover costs. If you want low tax rates as a way to attract businesses you want as li...

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There’s plenty of land around there that could be developed into office or hotel when the market picks up. That's a good point. For some reason, it doesn't feel like this is the case, since this is right next to West Village and a couple of towers, but there is PLENTY of land that could be re-devel...

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I figured this is what the developers were going to do, but glad it's official and also glad it didn't take them too long to put out another update. Makes me feel like they are still eager to get this one off the ground.

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I feel like we have more than enough steakhouses in this part of town, but I like that this one looks more trendy. I don't go to steakhouses often, but the ones I have been feel a bit more 'classic' in their look. Not really a bad thing, but it'll be nice to see something a little different.

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That's actually really great to hear! I haven't been in over a year and the last time I went it seemed pretty deserted (even though it was a Sunday afternoon and the weather was perfect). Glad to hear things have really picked up in the area, and I think the completion of The Victor and the nearby O...

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Yep. Plus they're constantly being rated as one of the best places to live. The way things are going i wouldn't be surprised if Austin surpassed Dallas in population sooner rather than later. Austin: 950,000 Dallas: 1,330,000 Seems unlikely given how far ahead Dallas already is. I don't know what t...

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Yes!!! Thanks for the update! Sorry to hear that you lost your entrance, but this will be such a huge improvement to this area.

I had pretty much given up on this project after having walked by it so many times and not seeing any movement.

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I'm obviously biased, but that's how I've been feeling about Texas during this pandemic as well, and my opinion has not changed at all now that we are nearing the end of it. Everything that made the economy strong pre-COVID is still true for Texas. As far as COVID, it seems like we were more lax wit...

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It looks like the Westdale (think its Westdale) project across from the Epic on Elm started back up. Looking forward to the progress of this project. What’s that project supposed to be? I think they are referring to "Good E": https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2019/12/16/deep...

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That's a shame, I really liked that bar and the building it was in. I had no idea this building was going to be a part of the Quadrangle development.

Looking forward to this development kicking off though, whenever that may be.

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Agreed. I know people don't like that it isn't really a Farmer's Market any more, which is true, but it's an extremely successful urban district that has really revitalized that part of town. This is great news though, this area is already bustling, so looking forward to seeing more residential and ...

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That's fair. I've been concerned about the impact of these transition tunnels as well. Initially I was so on board with this project, but as it drags on I'm less and less in support of it. Honestly, I'd rather see more money poured into a better bus system, but seeing as how we have already built qu...

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I agree, it's a very poor development. I have extremely low expectations for this part of Downtown, so I suppose I'd rather just see something happen here rather than nothing. I realize a parking garage is generally worse than 'nothing', especially when the existing space is green space. However, I'...

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Hopefully the parking structure is developed with a potential to redevelop into something else without tearing it down in the future. I think future use should be a big part of any urban 'parking' development at this time. Some retail in that area - if it fills up - would be welcomed in that part o...

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If I'm reading correctly, it'll replace the WFAA Plaza. I've always hated that "park" b/c it looked so half baked. So in that sense, I'll take it as well. At least this one has a retail element, unlike the First Baptist monster garages. Yes, you're right, it is the Plaza. For some reason,...

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I dislike it, but I suppose I'll take it. I agree, I really doubt there is a parking shortage, but I hope that additional parking spaces might encourage development on some of these other surface lots? I also wouldn't mind if this ended up looking like Phase 1 of the 2000 Ross development either. I ...

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SoGood project south of downtown Dallas to include innovation center
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Here's something ( FREE ) to put on the ol' virtual calendar since it's up everyone's wheelhouse here: https://downtowndallas.com/events/ https://marketscale.brand.live/c/we-are-downtown Downtown Dallas, Inc. 2021 Annual Meeting, presented by Newpark Dallas by Hoque Global by MarketScale Thu, Feb 2...

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Thank you for the pictures! I actually also drove down I-345 this past weekend, and was pleasantly surprised to see multiple towers under construction. I had a great view of this development, The Stack, 300 Pearl, and The Epic.

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Serious Pizza’s serious facelift: The late-night Deep Ellum restaurant is back
https://www.dallasnews.com/2021/02/26/s ... back-open/

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Turtle Creek is really struggling getting anything off the ground these days, and the residents of The Renaissance will certainly push back hard on this thing.

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Thank you, that is good to know! I'll be sure to reach out!

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Valid points, that makes sense! You even answered your own question to a degree: "I lived within walking distance to a place, I don't quite get why I would prefer on-street parking over a bike lane?" If you're in walking distance, why do you need a bike lane? I wouldn't need the bike lane ...

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And very real people who most definitely don't want bike lanes, because every on-street parking space is a precious gift from God. I can understand why local businesses like on-street parking, but if I lived within walking distance to a place, I don't quite get why I would prefer on-street parking ...

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Great news, looking forward to seeing more development in this area!

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I'd be happy with more trees. It's just like a big ugly grass line. Maintenance wise it's easy (which is probable the point) but in the summer it's hot and more shade along the river and paths would be nice. It doesn't have to central park there is more an opportunity than what they have currently ...

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I wish this development would have taken the 2000 Ross Ave. approach and built the thing in phases. Perhaps we would have already had the Central Markt + Garage by now, even if they weren't ready to build the residential portion.

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No idea what third tower they are referring to. Super exciting to see another tower rising in this immediate area though, especially one that is going to be right up against the trail entrance and creek! What's the deal with the surface lot next to the Virgin Hotel? It sounds like there aren't any c...

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Thank you for sharing! This sounds interesting, so I'll definitely register.

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I'm perfectly happy with this being about Real Estate Development. All I would like to see is a nice boardwalk between the bridges and a lot of development lining said boardwalk. It would be nice to have something the size of Central Park, but we really just don't have the need for anything of that ...

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THRILLHO wrote:It's too bad the mix master keeps the Trinity from being fully interwoven with Dallas' urban fabric.

The Design District could make it happen seeing as how it fronts the Trinity River and also has the Turtle Creek (and Trail) to the north.

I'm honestly surprised that area hasn't exploded more.

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Wonderful. Even though I'm really embarrassed by how much of a cluster this project has been, I'm looking forward to utilizing this pedestrian bridge when it is completed.

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Thanks for setting this up!

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Mudsmith and Pints & Quarts closed their Lower greenville locations prior to closing the locations at The Centrum, so it does seem like the location wasn't necessarily the issue. There is a decent amount of office and residential in the immediate area, so I do think it is possible for something ...

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Well according to someone close the Centrum the building it is pretty damn empty now. Supposedly Capitol Factory vacated and many other tenants have evaporated as well. Not because of the building itself but just COVID hasn't done well to this building. They are offering move in incentives to get a...

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I like that development is already happening in the area, and we won't necessarily have to wait until the parks are completed to see the benefits.

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It's really a shame what we are stuck with on this particular block. Uptown has still managed to thrive in spite of this block, and if we still get the Central Market development, it'll help reduce the negative impact of this area. In the meantime, I'm thinking we're simply stuck with this developme...

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Wish they could have just delayed a hotel phase because we know that market will return once another year passes I'm not exactly sure that will be the case, though. I think business travel will take a permanent hit now that people know they can get things done over zoom calls. Obviously travel will...

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Isn't Dream Cafe moving into the old Christie's spot?

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More great news! I only had a chance to go to Mexican Sugar once, but I was definitely a fan and have enjoyed most of the concepts that this team has opened. I'm so glad to see them investing into the Uptown area, I'm really hoping we can get a location of Ida Claire soon! I'm also loving their conf...

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The best part is that it's an entire district being created here, and this tower is just one of the several pieces that are tying it all together.

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Don't actually hate this. Actually makes sense on a number of levels. I'm sure it'll be a really nice space and should attract both locals and tourists. I agree! Mi Cocina is much more approachable than Savor, which is what this area needs. Plus it's a bit touristy, mainstream, and well known, I th...

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The developer of the proposed Central Market/office/hotel/apartments on Lemmon Ave has asked the city to modify their development to remove the 156 Marriott hotel (due to COVID) and to increase the maximum dwelling units (for more apartments) on the site & keep the approved height/density/massi...

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