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by I45Tex
16 Sep 2020 21:37
Forum: The Airports
Topic: McKinney National Airport
Replies: 10
Views: 4234

Re: McKinney National Airport

I predict that after the 5 party agreement expires in 2025, WN will announce service out of TKI. The metro can easily support 3 airports. That was true when you posted it. AA is now pulling back Los Angeles service, so that customers west of the Rockies will either codeshare to fly to Asia or else ...
by I45Tex
09 Sep 2020 12:14
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: DFW Economy
Replies: 417
Views: 168582

Re: DFW Economy

That's almost always the case because the best labor statistics are updated by the feds and they do them by MSA, not by combined MSAs. San Jose is almost 50 miles from both San Francisco and Berkeley, and in a different MSA, even though some of the suburbs in the middle can commute to both.
by I45Tex
05 Sep 2020 17:17
Forum: The Parks, Trails, + Miscellaneous Infrastructure
Topic: Trinity River Park
Replies: 340
Views: 131251

Re: Trinity River Park

ATL is about to redo an even larger downtown prison, also from the mid-1990s. https://www.archpaper.com/2020/08/center-for-equity-atlanta-feature/ But here's a non-paywall photo of the 2020 sketch of ours: https://assets.archpaper.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Design-Inspiration-Sketch.jpg https://...
by I45Tex
05 Sep 2020 12:53
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown Dallas:Trammell Crow Tower
Replies: 53
Views: 8228

Re: 2401 McKinney tower

...garage entrance on Fairmount, height and FAR increases requested. https://candysdirt.com/2020/06/03/trammel-crow-zooms-luxe-2401-mckinney-to-oak-lawn-committee/ Balfour Beatty Construction filed five work in progress documents with the FAA on September 1st. Link is to the last one (...each one f...
by I45Tex
03 Sep 2020 13:43
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: Downtown Progress
Replies: 183
Views: 64587

Re: Downtown Progress

For casual forum readers, 120 basis points is 1.2%, so their measurement of our current rental market (not the total housing market) is based on an Intown inventory of 13,500 ( = 162/0.012) apartments and an Oak Lawn / Park Cities area inventory of 18,500 ( 222/0.012)
by I45Tex
02 Sep 2020 14:39
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: 2200 Pacific
Replies: 45
Views: 6642

Re: Downtown Dallas: 2200 Pacific

NY was split into Manhattan, the outer boroughs, Northern NJ, and at least two more markets that didn't rank highly enough to make the Top Markets infographic (just like DC and its VA suburbs were listed separately but its MD suburbs were below the cutoff). North Bay is usually separate from the thr...
by I45Tex
24 Aug 2020 16:43
Forum: The Parks, Trails, + Miscellaneous Infrastructure
Topic: Mill Creek Drainage Relief Tunnel
Replies: 1
Views: 289

Re: Mill Creek Drainage Relief Tunnel

Great link, thanks. Will this result in a pattern that lowers the local water table farther? Pre-urban Dallas County used to have seeps and springs all over. Deep tunnel sewer underway in the UK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thames_Tideway_Scheme#/media/File:Thames_Tideway_Tunnel_proposed_route_and...
by I45Tex
24 Aug 2020 14:46
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Oak Lawn
Replies: 595
Views: 257524

Re: Oak Lawn

FWIW the ZIP boundaries run almost exactly along Fitzhugh: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Dallas,+TX+75205/ If a future generation of Perots gets tired of 2010s modernism and sells or donates their Hillwood HQ to the city, a half dozen houses on the creek just between Blackburn and 3822 TC Drive ...
by I45Tex
21 Aug 2020 18:45
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown Dallas:Trammell Crow Tower
Replies: 53
Views: 8228

Re: Uptown Dallas:Trammell Crow Tower

Mods please merge with 2401 McKinney thread


Edit: Threads merged. - CTM
by I45Tex
20 Aug 2020 17:31
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Harwood Int'l District: No.14
Replies: 14
Views: 5066

Re: Harwood no 14 uptown

Since the articles basically read like a basic press release from HI, I wonder if this is 27 stories incl. podium-level stuff. Or is this 27 over 9 (or 10 if the ground floor is all lobby/retail/etc. except for parking ramp and a load area). I bring it up because of this clearance provided and proj...
by I45Tex
17 Aug 2020 15:58
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Victory Park: The Victor (~453FT / 39ST)
Replies: 147
Views: 60542

Re: Victory Park: The Victor (~453FT / 39ST)

Some of you guys overrate houston so much on here its laughable.. i guess its a grass is always greener type deal, I work there every other week, its very bland, most high rises are no different than here. I am there frequently too. I think the future is brighter for Dallas than Houston, but I find...
by I45Tex
15 Aug 2020 22:10
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Victory Park: The Victor (~453FT / 39ST)
Replies: 147
Views: 60542

Re: Victory Park: The Victor (~453FT / 39ST)

Agreed on boring. Hines' simultaneous "The Preston" underway in Houston is far more worthwhile.
Scroll down for rendering:
https://www.hines.com/news/hines-announ ... -community
by I45Tex
13 Aug 2020 22:10
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt
Replies: 288
Views: 114358

Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

They have FAA permission for 626', which is not the rendering above, because that one was head and shoulders lower than AMLI across the street, and AMLI is 562' --

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/se ... 9937&row=9
by I45Tex
13 Aug 2020 08:28
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Arts District: Flora & Olive Tower (~441 FT / ~39 ST)
Replies: 485
Views: 216231

Re: Arts District: Flora & Olive Tower (~441 FT / ~39 ST)

This rendering has five floors in the top grid row and a bit of a cornice projecting, so maybe there's a little more cornice material still in store.
by I45Tex
11 Aug 2020 11:43
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Arts District: Flora & Olive Tower (~441 FT / ~39 ST)
Replies: 485
Views: 216231

Re: Arts District: Flora & Olive Tower (~441 FT / ~39 ST)

It does look cheap to me too but if budget was the chief concern then I wouldn't want the likely alternatives either (a cheap looking brick or stick-on stone veneer). I wish the top row of the facade grid had increased to 6 storeys from 5, instead of decreasing to 4. A decrease to 4 makes it visuall...
by I45Tex
10 Aug 2020 21:38
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: Downtown Progress
Replies: 183
Views: 64587

Re: Downtown Progress

Yes. Interesting!
by I45Tex
10 Aug 2020 18:44
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: Downtown Progress
Replies: 183
Views: 64587

Re: Downtown Progress

Thanks. The submarket area that they have to measure to encircle 30MMsf for "West Plano" reminds me of the old days when Dallas' boomgrowthstats would get compared to Boston or St. Louis'... which only have (checking) 48 and 61 square miles of land for comparison growth to occur in. If Dal...
by I45Tex
10 Aug 2020 16:08
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: Downtown Progress
Replies: 183
Views: 64587

Re: Downtown Progress

Does that total include Design District and Old Parkland? Will it include Baylor’s 300Ksf in Deep Ellum when it opens later this year?
by I45Tex
07 Aug 2020 16:08
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Dallas Smart District
Replies: 155
Views: 60032

Re: Dallas Smart District

A new updated video of One NewPark. Looks like another building was added to their plans. Hope this happens. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2pjaTzcK-hE They've got to fix that script at 1:15 where they say the 90-minute-connected Hou+DFW economy will be a connected region second in size only to Tri-...
by I45Tex
05 Aug 2020 11:22
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: DD: 1401 Elm and Thompson Hotel
Replies: 601
Views: 272235

Re: DD: 1401 Elm and Thompson Hotel

There are a lot of other good views of RGNL in this collection of dozens of First National construction photos. Just search description containing "first national bank": https://library.uta.edu/digitalgallery/items/show/72179 Some also show the buildings on the other corner of Akard and Pa...
by I45Tex
03 Aug 2020 22:19
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Field Street District
Replies: 51
Views: 10937

Re: Downtown Dallas: Field Street District

Won't you have to cross two frontage roads and a loud underpass to reach the transit for this TOD?
by I45Tex
21 Jul 2020 23:55
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Issues/News
Topic: What is a suburb today?
Replies: 75
Views: 45043

Re: What is a suburb today?

They're a tiny, tiny subset of the Metroplex's Millennials. Many Millennials haven't even reached the point they can afford homeownership yet, nevermind in coastal cities or the desirable relatively high-tax areas of flyover ones. We're not talking about a representative sample of The Generation obv...
by I45Tex
04 Jul 2020 11:02
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Dallas Area Rapid Transit
Replies: 364
Views: 155891

Re: Dallas Area Rapid Transit

Interesting, thanks!

A dream project of mine, if I had a TBM lying around, could be to use the vacant K-H cavern and build a D2.5 subway from there down to Market Center with an intermediate stop around Oak Lawn @ Cedar Springs...
by I45Tex
03 Jul 2020 13:47
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Dallas Smart District
Replies: 155
Views: 60032

Re: Dallas Smart District

Smart just sounds blandly corporate. Though the new park in the video is pretty blandly corporate too.
by I45Tex
03 Jul 2020 02:29
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Dallas Area Rapid Transit
Replies: 364
Views: 155891

Re: Dallas Area Rapid Transit

Did you also have a similar diagram for the deferred Knox-Henderson subway station, northsouth?
by I45Tex
03 Jul 2020 02:24
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Dallas Smart District
Replies: 155
Views: 60032

Re: Dallas Smart District

The four-star hotel stacked between the office and multifamily chunks would be nice if it happens. Could it help convince Hillwood to try something more multi-functional, if it worked here? Architecturally I think it fails to look like anyplace at all except what investors think is safe to look like...
by I45Tex
26 Jun 2020 16:22
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown Dallas: Cedar Maple Plaza I,II & III (2301 Cedar Springs Rd.)
Replies: 80
Views: 30409

Re: Uptown Dallas: Cedar Maple Plaza I,II & III (2301 Cedar Springs Rd.)

Is this the same thing as the 30 story tower or is that next door on the same site plan? That's 2401 McKinney (Trammell Crow with Pickard Chilton designing). But GFF is also the designer of 2500 Cedar Springs upcoming for the Ryan Companies. And behind that is the planned Quadrangle redevelopment.
by I45Tex
24 Jun 2020 12:50
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Design District: Urby High-rise Apartments
Replies: 36
Views: 9577

Re: Design District: Urby High-rise Apartments

And Journal Squared is a take-off of Fort Worth's tallest:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burnett_Plaza
by I45Tex
19 Jun 2020 14:45
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: TC Area: 2727 Turtle Creek Blvd
Replies: 40
Views: 14924

Re: TC Area: 2727 Turtle Creek Blvd

Is there a good chance that the adjacent developers Prescott Realty Group will seize the opportunity to have additional phases to the 2727 project by buying this site?
by I45Tex
17 Jun 2020 14:37
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: 2200 Pacific
Replies: 45
Views: 6642

Re: Downtown Dallas: 2200 Pacific

After years of subsidies, the light rail-served Midtown part of Houston has finally gentrified, and Rice is also investing in making it their innovation district. Midtown is much less adjacent to their Museum District campus or to downtown Houston activity than the areas around 2200 Pacific are to a...
by I45Tex
16 Jun 2020 01:48
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 376
Views: 159316

Re: DART D2 Subway

I like both Troy and TNWE's ideas. I realize DART really wants to get the Final EIS decision handed down for their preferred design to reroute Green and Orange through a new downtown tunnel project (two weeks are left on the public comment period for the supplemental draft EIS, or SDEIS, by the way!...
by I45Tex
12 Jun 2020 21:47
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Comprehensive Dallas Development Map / List
Replies: 44
Views: 40395

Re: Comprehensive Dallas Development Map / List

:D
1st "Needs An Update" Anniversary Post, just because I clicked on this without reading the year first
by I45Tex
08 Jun 2020 17:53
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: 508 Young Street (old Dallas Morning News building)
Replies: 85
Views: 23929

Re: Downtown Dallas: 508 Young Street (old Dallas Morning News building)

The bigger benefit would be the ability for someone leaving downtown to wait inside the building until the "Airport Express" arrives, then board and wait in air-conditioned comfort without having to worry about missing the train, rather than having to walk to West End and wait in the elem...
by I45Tex
26 May 2020 14:59
Forum: Texas Urban/Suburban/Exurban Development
Topic: Austin's proposed tallest (in 4 yrs)
Replies: 160
Views: 66874

Re: Austin's proposed tallest (in 4 yrs)

What is that super reflective glass going to melt on the ricochet?
by I45Tex
22 May 2020 10:14
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel
Replies: 46
Views: 16153

Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Cool. Thanks cre8tive.
by I45Tex
22 May 2020 10:05
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: DFW Economy
Replies: 417
Views: 168582

Re: DFW Economy

Yeah, places like SoCal with no appearance on that list/graphic have a much more robust business ecosystem than others like XNA/NWA. Wonder how many more decades until Walmart and Amazon's annual topline revenue (the thing that F500 measures) will go the way of Montgomery Ward and Kmart.
by I45Tex
22 May 2020 00:17
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: DFW Economy
Replies: 417
Views: 168582

Re: DFW Economy

Of local HQs, both JCPenney and Dean Foods will conceivably disappear completely this year. AT&T and ETE were flat while Jacobs Engineering gained 2 spots in the ranking. Not only airlines but Fluor, Tenet, Pioneer Natural Resources, HollyFrontier, and Gamestop are also dropping in the rankings ...
by I45Tex
21 May 2020 16:12
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Victory Park 3.0
Replies: 745
Views: 330440

Re: Victory Park 3.0

Is this an old development concept for the Northend apartments that I missed? I saw it on Facebook as the cover photo for a DMN article. It’s called “The Interweave.” Fitting name as it would weave together Uptown, Harwood, and Victory Park. I don’t want to speculate but it almost looks like indoor...
by I45Tex
20 May 2020 17:44
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: New Census Population Estimates
Replies: 147
Views: 56671

Re: New Census Population Estimates

You're right about that beauty, but look at the big picture (returning to the Census growth topic). Texas has a claim to be strong economically if any state in the union does. But most counties are losing population while the ones that are growing are more socially fragile than ever, from reorganizi...
by I45Tex
20 May 2020 17:03
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: New Census Population Estimates
Replies: 147
Views: 56671

Re: New Census Population Estimates

But can a young person magically be "about income" just because they are someone promising who happens to get a few scholarships, out of a family and corralled community that have never had the choice of being "about income"? Should they want to be about it, honestly, seeing what...
by I45Tex
20 May 2020 16:23
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: New Census Population Estimates
Replies: 147
Views: 56671

Re: New Census Population Estimates

I'm not sure why you disagree, Scott; that is precisely an example of the last thing that Warrior said. Insiders or outsiders alike are interested in that land because it was artificially depressed in value through racist redlining policy. The Dallas residents who have been deprived of asset-buildin...
by I45Tex
18 May 2020 17:06
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: DFW in the Media
Replies: 66
Views: 27142

Re: DFW in the Media

dukemeredith wrote:I was most surprised to see German Chocolate Cake on that list. That’s definitely something Dallas could take ownership of and be “known” for around the country — like Key West is “known” for Key Lime Pie (among other things).



Same here!
by I45Tex
16 May 2020 04:12
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: Corporate Relocations/Expansions
Replies: 482
Views: 191813

Re: Corporate Relocations/Expansions

They'll move the manufacturing to Austin and the HQ. I think the superior access to water, power, freight transportation, housing, and experienced heavy manufacturing management, scientific, and shop floor talent bases are all in Tulsa over Austin (a lot of technical equipment and instruments for i...
by I45Tex
15 May 2020 13:20
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: DFW in the Media
Replies: 66
Views: 27142

Re: DFW in the Media

If that were true, would Texas Instruments have settled for owning only a cross-licensing agreement about the intellectual property?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inventi ... ed_circuit
by I45Tex
15 May 2020 00:01
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: DFW in the Media
Replies: 66
Views: 27142

Re: DFW in the Media

Nice to be listed. Also embarrassing to have had that much opportunity, be in that kind of company, and yet the city's lasting original contributions to global civilization are the Texas donut apartment block, graphing calculators, Mary Kay marketing mantras, and the inspiration for Outkast's "...
by I45Tex
14 May 2020 20:33
Forum: Texas Urban/Suburban/Exurban Development
Topic: Austin's proposed tallest (in 4 yrs)
Replies: 160
Views: 66874

Re: Austin's proposed tallest (in 4 yrs)

Lincoln Property Co's 6 X Guadalupe (pronounced "Sixth and Guadalupe"), this Ryan Cos BBVA tower, and current Austin tallest The Independent all have flat boxy tops. Unless their architects change that, they will all just be backdrops to the Railyard proposal (assuming it goes ahead) -- ht...
by I45Tex
22 Apr 2020 17:37
Forum: The Airports
Topic: DFW Airport
Replies: 265
Views: 121142

Re: DFW Airport

Thanks TNWE, and also dfwcre8tive!
by I45Tex
15 Apr 2020 18:21
Forum: The Airports
Topic: DFW Airport
Replies: 265
Views: 121142

Re: DFW Airport

No idea on Tucy's question, but since Terminal F is pretty poorly located for TEXRail, Orange Line and TRE passengers, is it intended mostly for flight capacity for new transfer connecting passengers? It seems like ORD plans to compete hard for more of this next generation of continental east-west h...
by I45Tex
15 Apr 2020 18:03
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown Dallas: 1899 McKinney (McKinney/Akard/St. Paul Triangle)
Replies: 64
Views: 24139

Re: Uptown Dallas: 1899 McKinney (McKinney/Akard/St. Paul Triangle)

Better spot for 270 condominiums than Azure/Blue Ciel's, The House's or Museum Tower's. Now we'll have to see if the unsold existing inventory becomes any cheaper to compete with this, or whether the potential buyers are very picky among submarkets, meaning there's not a great extent of audience ove...

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