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by northsouth
24 Nov 2020 18:53
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Dallas Area Rapid Transit
Replies: 373
Views: 171818

Re: Dallas Area Rapid Transit

The fact that it does display what the line is instead of just the destination makes me think that the LEDs are in fact monochrome. Looking at them up close yesterday, I couldn't discern any individual red/green/blue LEDs making up a larger pixel. Time will tell, I guess.
by northsouth
23 Nov 2020 19:03
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Dallas Area Rapid Transit
Replies: 373
Views: 171818

Re: Dallas Area Rapid Transit

Something new today: the train I was on this evening had LED destination signs in place of the old-fashioned scrolling ones. I'd seen references in DART budgets in the last year or two to starting on replacing the signs, but didn't know if it'd been deferred due to COVID. It was an Orange line train...
by northsouth
17 Nov 2020 18:53
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Dallas Area Rapid Transit
Replies: 373
Views: 171818

Re: Dallas Area Rapid Transit

Mentioned this in another thread, but will bump it here since it's kinda dead. https://twitter.com/humantransit/status/1327344320400171008 From Jarrett Walker on Twitter: Dallas bus network redesign: The Board has given direction on how the balance the competing goals of ridership and coverage, and...
by northsouth
11 Oct 2020 16:44
Forum: The Parks, Trails, + Miscellaneous Infrastructure
Topic: DTD: West End Square
Replies: 44
Views: 13716

Re: DTD: West End Square

More recent updates: rest of the internal sidewalks have been poured over the last few weeks, then more recently they've put in more trees and smaller greenery. North and west awnings have received paint jobs, and it looks like some bricklaying has begun under the north one as well.
by northsouth
03 Oct 2020 21:48
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Development
Topic: Las Colinas/North Irving Development
Replies: 1115
Views: 487208

Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

There was some discussion in the DART thread about it - the construction costs came in higher than estimated, and Irving needed some extra time to get the cash together. The estimate for this station is totally ridiculous when you consider that the foundations and footings for the station were buil...
by northsouth
14 Sep 2020 22:19
Forum: The Parks, Trails, + Miscellaneous Infrastructure
Topic: DTD: West End Square
Replies: 44
Views: 13716

Re: DTD: West End Square

Some recent progress shots. Trees added, eastern awning structure up, today they poured a large section of internal sidewalk. Also, found a piece on the water feature, currently visible under construction. https://dallasinnovates.com/ddi-foundations-300k-donation-set-for-west-end-square-water-featur...
by northsouth
21 Aug 2020 22:08
Forum: The Parks, Trails, + Miscellaneous Infrastructure
Topic: DTD: West End Square
Replies: 44
Views: 13716

Re: DTD: West End Square

West awning main structure seems done. Paths have become more defined in the main area after differently colored dirt was brought in for green areas. Looked like they were putting in irrigation pipes yesterday and today.
by northsouth
06 Aug 2020 19:09
Forum: The Parks, Trails, + Miscellaneous Infrastructure
Topic: DTD: West End Square
Replies: 44
Views: 13716

Re: DTD: West End Square

Most of the main frame for the northern part of the awning is up, concrete perimeter seems largely poured, beginning to see interior pathways carved into the dirt.
by northsouth
13 Jul 2020 21:05
Forum: The Parks, Trails, + Miscellaneous Infrastructure
Topic: DTD: West End Square
Replies: 44
Views: 13716

Re: DTD: West End Square

Making some real progress recently.
by northsouth
07 Jul 2020 21:48
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Dallas Area Rapid Transit
Replies: 373
Views: 171818

Re: Dallas Area Rapid Transit

Ah, so that's where I got it from. Thanks for finding those to begin with.

Looking around your flickr account and dear god that Mill Creek Parkway proposal. Let's be glad that not everything leaves the drawing board.
by northsouth
03 Jul 2020 12:07
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Dallas Area Rapid Transit
Replies: 373
Views: 171818

Re: Dallas Area Rapid Transit

No, Only for Cityplace. I tried overlaying the diagram on an overhead view of the Knox/Henderson area, but the locations of the vents and exits don't line up. On one of the DART board's presentations about the 2045 plan a few months ago, there was mention of possibly building out Knox/Henderson stat...
by northsouth
02 Jul 2020 23:11
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Dallas Area Rapid Transit
Replies: 373
Views: 171818

Re: Dallas Area Rapid Transit

Gotcha - so the station cutout was dug out to accommodate longer trains, but the extra portion was walled off? Yes. If you look outside the windows on the left side of a train when arriving (southbound) or departing (northbound), you can see the area. Until last month or so, there was no finishing ...
by northsouth
19 May 2020 18:40
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 394
Views: 175248

Re: DART D2 Subway

As a reminder where DART has pocket tracks, there are just a few on the system. Green south at Lawnview, Green and Orange north at Bachman, Blue line north at LBJ/Skillman, Red line north at LBJ/Central, Red and Blue south just before spur to maintenance shops. There is also one just north of Victo...
by northsouth
14 Apr 2020 14:05
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas Retail
Replies: 333
Views: 166254

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

It closed around the beginning of the year I think. I wonder if it wasn't turning enough business or it was an issue of shrinkage.
by northsouth
17 Mar 2020 22:57
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Dallas High School
Replies: 87
Views: 38842

Re: Downtown Dallas: Dallas High School

Parking lot's been torn up, trees taken down. Recent wet weather aside, this is about to get pretty active.
by northsouth
12 Feb 2020 22:48
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Development
Topic: Las Colinas/North Irving Development
Replies: 1115
Views: 487208

Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Hidden Ridge Station is finally rolling. Apparently the city of Irving had agreed to fund it. That must have been the reason for the delay. https://communityimpact.com/dallas-fort-worth/coppell-valley-ranch-las-colinas/transportation/2020/01/29/irving039s-116m-hidden-ridge-transit-station-to-open-i...
by northsouth
04 Feb 2020 18:51
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Dallas Area Rapid Transit
Replies: 373
Views: 171818

Re: Dallas Area Rapid Transit

https://www.dart.org/about/board/boardagendas/wholeitem7_28jan20.pdf Seems to me that DART is only doing this now since the FTA is getting on their case about it. Most other major light rail systems seem to have already implemented these years ago. Deadline for completion is July 31, and given the ...
by northsouth
26 Jan 2020 23:48
Forum: The Bus + Roads/Highways/Bridges
Topic: DART: Bus system
Replies: 52
Views: 26228

Re: DART: Bus system

It does. It was made the terminus of D-Link when it switched to electric buses, and now is the terminus of route 749, which now uses the ex-D-Link buses. The requisite investment in a bus charging station is also probably part of why they want to find ways to continue using the electrics.
by northsouth
10 Jan 2020 21:54
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Silver Line
Replies: 345
Views: 169680

Re: Silver Line

DART wanted to put the maintenance facility in Carrollton, at the northeast corner of Belt Line and Luna, but Carrollton wouldn't give them the ok (a new warehouse has since been built on the spot). So then the options would be to use TEXRail's facility, or the TRE one. The TEXRail site would probab...
by northsouth
08 Jan 2020 22:49
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Dallas High School
Replies: 87
Views: 38842

Re: Downtown Dallas: Dallas High School

Noticed that the parking lot on the site for this one was closed with the entrances taped off today. Maybe something is happening. Or they were just repainting the lines. Time will tell.
by northsouth
08 Dec 2019 18:30
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 394
Views: 175248

Re: DART D2 Subway

Interesting tidbit from the latest DART board presentation on D2. The plan for light rail lines downtown from 1988 had the Red and Blue lines running as a subway underneath State St in Uptown, Pearl St, and Pacific Ave before returning to the surface west of Houston St. Stations were between Routh a...
by northsouth
19 Oct 2019 21:52
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: AMLI Fountain Place (562 FT / 46 ST)
Replies: 784
Views: 457560

Re: Downtown Dallas: AMLI Fountain Place (562 FT / 46 ST)

I feel like this building could use a good nickname, since calling it "The AMLI Fountain Place" is a bit awkward. I propose calling it "The Chisel."
by northsouth
05 Oct 2019 20:21
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: AMLI Fountain Place (562 FT / 46 ST)
Replies: 784
Views: 457560

Re: Downtown Dallas: AMLI Fountain Place (562 FT / 46 ST)

Anyone else starting to get a bit concerned about the lack of visible progress recently? I've seen workers poking about here and there, and the crane moves sometimes, but I haven't seen progress on the crown for weeks. For example, in the middle part along the top there's still a gap in the frame wh...
by northsouth
25 Sep 2019 20:45
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Development
Topic: Richardson: Main Street Improvements
Replies: 17
Views: 10834

Re: Richardson: Main Street Improvements

Can confirm they've been painting the bike lanes onto Greenville yesterday and today, as well as working on the crosswalk. The lanes themselves have been coned off for at least a week in preparation. The city also has a page on their website about this.
by northsouth
10 Sep 2019 22:36
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: DTD: The National/Thompson Hotel (1401 Elm)
Replies: 615
Views: 299356

Re: DD: 1401 Elm and Thompson Hotel

Speaking of FOX4, that incident where that crazy guy drove a truck into their building happened almost a year ago, but the glass walls that were damaged are still boarded up with plywood. You'd think they would've taken care of it by now.
by northsouth
27 Aug 2019 19:42
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 394
Views: 175248

Re: DART D2 Subway

I wasn't suggesting that the north-south route be used as D2, just that it would be a good placement for such a line at some point. The fact that there's such a debate about the necessity of a second line through downtown implies that any additional lines are completely out of the question until/unl...
by northsouth
23 Aug 2019 23:21
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 394
Views: 175248

Re: DART D2 Subway

Would the Orange line run down through Union and Convention Center before heading north to Cityplace? The junction east of Pearl is already busy enough, without needing however many new switches and crossings to be added. My feelings are that if a north-south line happens through downtown, it'd be b...
by northsouth
08 Aug 2019 19:48
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Trinity Railway Express
Replies: 3
Views: 6448

Re: Trinity Railway Express

The TRE seems to be having a lot of train cancellations due to "mechanical issues" recently. That is to say, they're running short on operable locomotives. While driving by their yard last week, I noticed one of the two F59PHIs (the streamlined engines) sitting off on the siding with the l...
by northsouth
06 Aug 2019 22:44
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DFW rail transit maps
Replies: 4
Views: 5879

Re: DFW rail transit maps

Looking Good! The only error I can find is that on the future transit map, you didn't put the 1700 Pacific station in the right spot (...at 1700 Pacific). To be honest, I've been meaning to eventually get around to making a thread like this, although my maps are usually reconstructions of past syste...
by northsouth
23 Jul 2019 19:01
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Silver Line
Replies: 345
Views: 169680

Re: Silver Line

https://www.dart.org/ShareRoot/about/expansion/cottonbelt/DARTCottonBeltMeeting22jul19.pdf

Looks like they've scaled down the station designs to something more reasonable than the ones described in the EIS.
by northsouth
24 Jun 2019 22:38
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Silver Line
Replies: 345
Views: 169680

Re: Silver Line

1) Is the Orange Line Phase 2 to DFW North station still a thing or did it get permanently cancelled. I know they built the stub out for it, but wasnt' sure if it was still in the plans. Buried in the FEIS for the Silver Line they mentioned that it's cancelled. I went into further detail with a lin...
by northsouth
18 Jun 2019 19:08
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: AMLI Fountain Place (562 FT / 46 ST)
Replies: 784
Views: 457560

Re: Downtown Dallas: AMLI Fountain Place (562 FT / 46 ST)

Definitely appears that they've stopped building concrete floors, most to all of the falsework is gone. Next up, the steel structure framing to build the top of the building.
by northsouth
20 May 2019 21:53
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Deep Ellum: Epic ~ Knights of Pythias Temple
Replies: 591
Views: 257091

Re: Deep Ellum: Epic ~ Knights of Pythias Temple

Honestly the best location for the wye would've been where the Epic is now, but the planning of D2 hadn't gotten far enough along to begin securing land for a junction (it still hasn't), while the development of the Epic just went on along, so now they're stuck putting to the north. They considered ...
by northsouth
03 Apr 2019 19:06
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DCTA (Denton Co. Transportation Authority)
Replies: 21
Views: 11936

Re: DCTA (Denton Co. Transportation Authority)

DCTA uses Stadler cars, but of a different model (GTW) than TEXRail (FLIRT). It might be an issue of platform height, but more likely it's an issue of loading gauge (width). Loading gauge at platform height can be a major issue with regards to compatibility; it's why, regulatory issues aside, heavy ...
by northsouth
20 Mar 2019 20:15
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Dallas Area Rapid Transit
Replies: 373
Views: 171818

Re: Dallas Area Rapid Transit

Well the last time wasn't a full replacement, just a few spots that needed it most. The rest is being replaced this time, and what was replaced in the past is staying. It's why there's that gap in the tracks at West End that makes a racket every time a train runs over it, it's a joint between some o...
by northsouth
12 Mar 2019 20:30
Forum: The Bus + Roads/Highways/Bridges
Topic: DART: Bus system
Replies: 52
Views: 26228

Re: DART: Bus system

D-Link got axed because it couldn't meet minimum ridership numbers. It did alright during conventions and whatnot, but day-to-day it was empty. DART had already straightened and simplified its routing from what it had been, to seem less loopy and more direct, but it wasn't enough. Part if its proble...
by northsouth
22 Feb 2019 22:23
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Silver Line
Replies: 345
Views: 169680

Re: the Cotton Belt line

When DART was planning the Orange Line they allowed for a diverging route from the current line between Belt Line and DFW stations to allow half the trains to stop at the North DFW Station. They even built two double track junctions into the Orange Line for construction of this second route. I do n...
by northsouth
21 Feb 2019 22:47
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: The Plague of Pancake Development
Replies: 13
Views: 9447

Re: The Plague of Pancake Development

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-02-13/why-america-s-new-apartment-buildings-all-look-the-same Relevant article on this issue, complete with photos of local apartments. The one at the top (the only one given an address) is in Uptown/West Village, and I can recognize two as being on Las C...
by northsouth
20 Feb 2019 19:18
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Silver Line
Replies: 345
Views: 169680

Re: the Cotton Belt line

The line was designed as double-tracked, and that it would be fully double-tracked either from the start or down the road. The argument is that doing it later would be relatively more expensive and difficult than to just do it now for an increased initial cost. This is talked about in the presentati...
by northsouth
09 Jan 2019 23:41
Forum: The Bus + Roads/Highways/Bridges
Topic: Houston St & Ross Ave
Replies: 2
Views: 3769

Re: Houston St & Ross Ave

Looking at HistoricAerials, that was the arrangement from about 1968 through 2001. Google Earth shows construction on the current intersection underway in 2001, complete by 2002. The 1989 imagery shows this curve pretty clearly. If you look closely at the most recent imagery (from September 2017, be...
by northsouth
19 Dec 2018 18:46
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: AMLI Fountain Place (562 FT / 46 ST)
Replies: 784
Views: 457560

Re: Downtown Dallas: AMLI Fountain Place (562 FT / 46 ST)

I’m just curious as to why it is not running below grade all the way through Victory? I would assume part of it is cost but did not know if there were other major factors. TIA for any insight. It's a matter of geometry as much as anything else. The portal ramp down into the tunnel requires a certai...
by northsouth
08 Dec 2018 18:54
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Dallas Mockingbird Station
Replies: 124
Views: 57040

Re: Dallas Mockingbird Station

https://www.dart.org/about/board/boarda ... 1dec18.pdf

Nothing concrete, but there are plans about.
by northsouth
04 Dec 2018 06:29
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART: Expansion
Replies: 109
Views: 62119

Re: DART: Expansion

So my next question is - if there's no aerial construction, and they preserved land for the at-grade extensions, why the heck does this cost $5 million/station? Even with Cityplace and Mockingbird being somewhat more challenging from a construction ingress perspective, those were built even longer ...
by northsouth
03 Dec 2018 19:40
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART: Expansion
Replies: 109
Views: 62119

Re: DART: Expansion

The 4 elevated stations on the Red Line were all built to full length to begin with, since extending them after the fact would be much more difficult.
by northsouth
11 Sep 2018 19:23
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 394
Views: 175248

Re: DART D2 Subway

Are they doing cut and cover on Commerce Street? I would think that putting in tunnels in an area full of sky scrapers and an existing tunnel network (pedestrian) would require TBMs anyway. Yes, the section from Metro Center station to the CBD East station will be bored. This includes the stretch u...
by northsouth
04 Sep 2018 20:15
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Silver Line
Replies: 345
Views: 169680

Re: the Cotton Belt line

I assume the Cypress Waters station is still in the mix, right? Did they every confirm that the realignment of the tracks through Cypress Waters will be the final alternative? I know it's a bit of a stretch, but 'technically' that will be a 'Dallas' station and walkable (eventually), even if my pos...
by northsouth
01 Sep 2018 17:28
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Trinity Railway Express
Replies: 3
Views: 6448

Re: Trinity Railway Express

Because otherwise there would be a gap in service between the start of the year and whenever they got it finished because they wouldn't have authorization to operate without PTC fully operational. Plus, this covers any delays that may occur.
by northsouth
22 Aug 2018 21:54
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 394
Views: 175248

Re: DART D2 Subway

I recall reading in one of the D2 documents on the DART site that if the Orange line is rerouted off of the Red line and down the Green line to Lawnview, they would run extra rush hour Red line trains from Parker Road down to Cedars to use the pocket track south of the station. This would serve all ...
by northsouth
02 Aug 2018 19:03
Forum: The Bus + Roads/Highways/Bridges
Topic: Midtown Express Project 114 & 183
Replies: 9
Views: 8516

Re: Midtown Express Project 114 & 183

A similar situation has more recently occurred over in Fort Worth with the Chisholm Trail Parkway/I-20/SH183 interchange. According to the thread over on the Fort Worth forum, most of the direct connectors were planned to be built later, so only two pairs have been built, but bases were built for an...
by northsouth
06 Jun 2018 02:16
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Fantasy DART Streetcar Expansion Map
Replies: 24
Views: 16200

Re: Fantasy DART Streetcar Expansion Map

Ooh, cool. I make a lot of maps like this (as well as long-gone streetcar systems), so of course I have a vision for the Dallas Streetcar network: https://drive.google.com/open?id=18R-rdlOC7m1YugH8hbkXHnsZacOMO8Y8&usp=sharing And as a companion map, one for Fort Worth: https://drive.google.com/o...

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