MontroseHood

Galleria Mall

Galleria Mall

Galleria Mall

Galleria Mall

Galleria Mall

Galleria Mall

Starbucks

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Galleria/Uptown

Galleria/Uptown

Galleria/Uptown

Galleria/Uptown

Galleria/Uptown

Galleria/Uptown

Galleria/Uptown

Galleria/Uptown

Galleria/Uptown

Galleria/Uptown

Galleria/Uptown

Galleria/Uptown

Waterwall

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View of Galleria/Uptown fron Downtown Houston Observation Deck

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pariah

uptown dallas is better imho

gc

I agree with you pariah but mainly because of personal bias. This area of Houston has more taller buildings than Dallas's Uptown, which makes it very appealling visually. Every time I visit Houston I make a point to go to the Galleria area (I used to live there).....it really is a nice....the new buildings, chromed arches, nice architecture, etc. I love the pics of Transco Tower (whatever it is called now...i.e. the fourth pic), it is sweet!

Thumbs up to H-Town!

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cdallen2004

nope, I love my Turtle Creek. Nothing else compares.....Dallas rules...

besides, where else can u receieve that famous southern charm?

drumguy8800

wow! what a beautiful area, montrose. Houston's Uptown is very impressive. Houston reminds me a lot of Atlanta.. I love Atlanta too.

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Geaux Tigers

Jackson, Memphis, Birmingham, Savannah, Charleston, New Orleans, Atlanta, Montgomery, Baton Rouge, Nashville, Columbia, Mobile, Biloxi, etc. That's where.

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freewaytincan

That's right.

drumguy8800

Uptown = not southern charm. Dallas = not southern charm. Houston = not southern charm. We're in no-mans land.. we aren't southern, we aren't west texas.. we're stuck in the nameless, faceless plains. Dallas doesn't really have character. (Neither does Houston.) San Antonio & Fort Worth are the only m ajor cities with a lot of character in Texas. I wish that Dallas would cling to the western part of its history.. I hate that Dallas always try to dodge this stereotype. Cosmopolitan Dallas is cold and faceless.. These new bridges coming into the city should have be more western.. or Austiny. Like.. pink-granite suspension bridges with forest-green cables, with massive, lit-up limestone stars on the side. The stereotype is heavily dodged and the only city to capitalize on it is Fort Worth. Dallas has forced itself to become 'just another city.'

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WORD!

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Foucault

We tried the cowboy thing, with the West End...look at it now. Dallas is a cosmopolitan city: Neiman's, TI, the Nasher...these are the things Dallas is known for today.

That doesn't mean our city has no character! We are not New York, nor Chicago, nor San Antonio, nor Los Angeles. We have attributes of all these cities, and some of our own. We are the city of Deep Ellum and the city of Uptown. JFK was assinated here; Tom Ford was feted here. New York is the melting pot of the world. Dallas is the melting pot of the North and South. Here we have a melange of Austin counterculture, Yankee culture, Southern hospitality, Western heritage, and East Coast fashion. We are a city of Texas and a city of the world. We are Dallas--the City of Big Things.

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Foucault

BTW, I would say Austin has tons more character than either San Antonio or Fort Worth. Capitalizing on a stereotype means you have to fit that stereotype. This doesn't make you unique, it makes you generic.

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tamtagon

Drummy, I think you just dont recognize it. Any area which increases its population by one third every ten years is going to be all mixed up until things start to coagulate. Dallas, Houston, Atlanta - all similar in the homogenized effect of overwhelming transplate population, but the grain of the wood is still there: I think Dallas does an excellent job combining two cultural subsets, being Southern AND Texan. It's often difficult for the natives to recognize the uniqueness of their "hometown," but there is no question about it.



Euww, pink granite and forest green cables - like gag me with a spoon.

freewaytincan

What's with that huge brick thing in front of the water wall? It looks awful.

drumguy8800

Isn't it just AWFUL?!?!

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Foucault

I don't see a bridge...

In any case, you're missing the point. We shouldn't try to make ourselves like Austin. We are not Austin. If we imitate Austin, we will never stand out. We will just be the city that looks like Austin. We should try to be the city like no other.

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Geaux Tigers

I'm going to get shot for saying this, but I think in Dallas' effort to be a city like no other, it's simply turning into every other city. There's just nothing unique or original about Dallas (with the exception of Fair Park and Deep Ellum) that the city can build on. Things here are simply too new and most of it is man made. Ft. Worth does a great job with the Stockyards and Sundance Square, but those are historic areas.

A great W.C. Fields quote: "There are only two cities in America...New Orleans and San Fransico. Everywhere else is Cleveland."

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drumguy8800

Amen.

And I was showing, foucault, how good forest-green and pink granite happen to look together.

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hamiltonpl

Thanks for the pictures, 'trose.

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Lakewooder

White Rock Lake is unique and original as well - notice this plus Deep Ellum and Fair Park bound LAKEWOOD/EAST DALLAS.

2112

Sometimes I find it enlightening to learn of an outsider’s perspective on my own city. So, in the interest of enlightenment, here is an outsider’s perspective on Dallas, offered by someone who has never lived in Dallas but who has visited the DFW area several times. In short, when I think of Dallas, I tend to think of something somewhat on the glitzy side. It is definitely a city, and it is not a medium sized city. I tend to visualize a somewhat large city with shiny skyscrapers. I also tend to think of a little pretentiousness, and I mean that in the most honest and objective way, not in a negative way. The cowboys, for some reason, are not the first thing I think of when I think of Dallas. It’s almost as if the Cowboys are an entity of their own, almost independent of Dallas. I believe that is because the team has a somewhat “statewide” ownership. Being raise in south Texas, there were very few people that were not Cowboys fans. Thus, the cowboys seem to belong to Texas, not Dallas. That’s just my perspective. What I don’t think of with Dallas is blue collar. I don’t think of an industrial gothic feeling. And I don’t think of massive traffic and tons of people, like you might visualize in Detroit or NYC. It’s almost like a sophisticated Savannah personality blown up into large proportions, really, and with a larger than life feel to it and without the smaller town feel of Savannah.

CTroyMathis

I don't remember seeing this thread long ago. Very nice photos.

gc

Thanks for your honesty 2112.

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Mballar

Regarding this thread's topic, I must offer that Houston's Galleria area and Dallas' Uptown areas can't really be compared in my opinion because they are not similar.

Houston's Galleria area is like Houston's "other downtown," where numerous office towers and commercial businesses are located. While numerous residential neighborhoods are located in close proximity to all of the commercial activity (e.g. River Oaks, highrise condos, etc.), this area is really a commercially-driven area with retail (Galleria & surrounding retail shopping strips) as the centerpiece/foundation. Uptown Dallas is becoming undoubtedly driven by residential developments (e.g. State Thomas, Ritz Carlton, W, Azure, West Village, etc.), with retail shopping taking more of a supporting role. The commercial business/office towers are there, but not nearly in numbers approaching Houston's Galleria Area.

Additionally, Houston's Galleria area has its own distinct skyline that is noticeable, separate and apart, from Houston's downtown. This is due, in part, to the distance between Houston's Galleria Area and Downtown Houston and the towering presence of Williams Tower (formerly Transco Tower). Uptown Dallas' skyline is still a work in progress and, if viewed from a distance, would more than likely be considered an extension of the Downtown Dallas Skyline.

I'm interested in others' opinion on this though!

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rantanamo

= Platinum Corridor.

tamtagon

I completely agree, and think the truth of it is the best attribute for both areas. Popular consideration of "Downtown Dallas" will unite the CBD and uptown as soon as the tall buildings create a solid profile. I'm mostly unfamiliar with Houston, but the sense I get is that the Galleria area has yet to develop a independant, cohesive neighborhood feel - that it's still a westward extention and/or transitional suburban area of greater Houston.

Rail connection between Houston's downtown and Uptown/Galleria will really add to the cosmopolitian feel of the city. The often considered lifestyle advantaged of the metroplex over Houston in having two distinct downtowns, Fort Worth and Dallas, will nullify as soon as Houston's uptown asserts individuality - if that already isnt the case.

rantanamo

^Just think of our Galleria/Addison/FND/DNT area from LBJ north(Platinum Corridor), but with an effort to unify it with signs and taller buildings.

RobertB

Although it's in a different town altogether, wouldn't Las Colinas appear to be similar to Houston's Galleria? Perhaps someone will get the urge to build a signature skyscraper on the north side of Lake Carolyn once the DART LRT is in place. Travellers at D/FW already think that the Las Colinas buildings are the Dallas skyline, anyway.

Disclaimer: I know less than nothing about Houston's Galleria area. If I've ever seen it on my way through town, I missed it while trying to keep from being run over on the freeways.

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2112

To be quite honest, I am envious of Dallas's Uptown. I wish Houston could develop like that, maybe in the Midtown area. Uptown Houston is allready too much like another downtown, as someone pointed out, and I think it's too late for it to develop the pedestrian activity that Dallas has in its Uptown.

2112

What is really nice about Uptown Dallas is that it is almost just another side of Downtown, and when both connect into one nice skylin,e it's going to look fantastic. Meanwhile, it will take eons before a continous skyline develops between Uptown and Downtown Houston, because it is so separated.

freewaytincan

A lot of people don't really even know Midtown exists.

2112

Actually, when I am enlightened, I am usually not pleased. It appears that a common thread I keep hearing from outsiders, regarding Houston, always involves polution, traffic, congestion, noise, dirty, etc. etc. Rudeness and Sex sometimes appear in those conversations sometimes, but not as often as those other attributes. My defensive response is always something like "So....whats the problem again?"

rantanamo

Nah, just think DNT, LBJ to PGBT. Very similar look and feel, except the towers in Houston are much taller. Both happen to have a Galleria built by the same company. They are about as similar as two areas in two cities can get and are the poster child for what out of towners think of when they think sunbelt sprawler.

Closest equivalent to Las Colinas is The Woodlands. Think trees instead of the hilly Las Colinas.

freewaytincan

Only Las Colinas is closer to Dallas, has fewer residents, and gets a little quieter at night. And has more towers. How is Las Colinas hilly? It's on shifty soil, yes, but not on hills.

Mballar

On the south side of SH114 there are increases in elevation. It's not Austin or Berkley, CA, but compared to the rest of Dallas, I could see how someone could describe it as hilly.

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